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目标片段这个现象跟我刚才观察到的这种信奉科学的第一个现象是相悖的。一方面,科学在受过教育的人群中,地位非常高,有一种理所当然的近乎真理的地位。另外一方面,我们在这里仍然继续谈论受过教育的人群。在同样的一群人中,非常多的人,我甚至可以说是越来越多的人开始相信玄学,也就是科学以外的东西,让我在这里继续说几个我的观察,这不是我的论点。我真的就是在东张西望窥探我身边的人的时候,注意到的有意思的事情。
来源片段in a lot of fields? And too many people in the reality based community have allowed that to happen for too long. And one of the interesting things is that whenever somebody raises this critique, the answer is, well, any intelligent and decent person would be on the left. Right. And so you are actually evil for suggesting this, which I think, whenever I've treated anything that goes within 100 miles of this, that is the overwhelming response. And I think what's interesting in that is the implicit statement that anybody who has views or values about the world that differ from the current consensus within academia
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serious scientific credentials becomes incapable of communicating to the public about a bare view of a matter of scientific controversy and great political relevance, that does seem to me to constitute a form of censorship. There's two things here implicit in your question comment, and they're quite different. One is, what is censorship and what's going on in cases like that? I would argue that actually the Wuhan virus story is a success story for the mainstream media, not a failure story. It starts with a failure, which is they got it wrong. They say we
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它说服的人也越来越多,全心全意信奉现代科学的人也越来越多,但是为什么它仍然没有办法满足我们人性最深处的渴望,不光光是最有智慧的思想家,哪怕是普通人都在渴望科学以外的东西。这又是为什么博客一开始我想要描绘两个看似相悖,但是同时又非常普遍的现象。一方面就是在现代中国受过教育,基本上可以和相信科学,相信现代科学画一个等号。我在这里说的不是学者,我说的是受过教育的普通人,我们认为越不发达、越贫穷、越落后的地方,人们就越不相信科学越迷信。比如说在第59期播客如何面对父母的死亡里,我的朋友老香哥曾经提到,在他的父亲被在农村里被人开车撞死之后,
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this is legitimate criticism of people are upset about something and we're expressing that. And that is actually completely part and parcel of free speech on social media. And no, what's going on here is actually a concerning instance of cancellation. Well, I do use this diagnostic approach and I added actually a seventh criterion in the book, which is reducing entire careers to a single instance, a single statement, context stripping, basically. So here, I think, is the big principle. And it's really the big principle underlying liberal science, the whole constitution of knowledge, which is we punish our errors
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按照科学的程序和步骤来研究这个世界上的一切来挖掘越来越多的真理。在这里我想要说,在绝大多数受过教育的普通人心中,对于真理的定义是科学真理,也就是被科学方法论规范过的真理似乎在我们心中,这是探索真理的唯一方式拥躬。这个想法的人,他有一个非常合情合理的理由。那就是如果我们不用科学方法论来规范的话,那号称自己是所谓的大师,不受科学方法约束的人,
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side has looked like in much of a Western world for a large part of the 20th century. Now, I think you slightly understate the intellectual costs of that. I don't know that we learned as much from Marxism as you imply. And I think the fights over it are incredibly bitter and there are certain new were hall academic disciplines and departments, for example, where people who didn't have an orthodox Marxist view did not have a chance of employment. And I actually think that in many ways misled and impoverished fields in the humanities and social sciences for a large part
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在科学真理之外,还有一个更广阔的科学之外的世界,是现代科学无法解释的。这本身难道不能够揭露现代科学的界限吗?接下来我想要说一个可能会让大家有点吃惊的。我自己的观察。根据我的观察,在受教育的人群中,现代人、现代中国人是全世界最相信现代科学的社会跟西方社会比起来,我们更加彻头彻尾的信奉科学主义科学方法论,而且这是有历史原因的博客。听众中的很多朋友都知道,我没有在中文语境中接受过高等教育做播客。
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that's reflecting a lack of this diversity. And that's something that we, you and I, and those who are friends of the reality based community need to start embracing. Let me ask you a final question on the pessimistic ledger about the future of a constitution of knowledge. I would point out that people don't like the ideas to be challenged. Political power has the ability to misshape human systems in deep ways. And historically speaking, the time in human history when we've been able to sustain something like a constitution of
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如果我们拒绝承认人生的好坏,人生的高低,那我们会理所应当的走向虚无主义。我们会绝望的认为一切都是差不多的,一切的选择都是平等的,都是主观的。拒绝承认科学之外的衡量标准,是现代人走向虚无和绝望的主要原因。我们对于好的渴望,对于良善的渴望是我们最深层次的渴望。而这种渴望现代科学无法回答。正是因为科学方法没有办法回答这个问题。所以他试图告诉我们这个问题没有答案,这个问题不应该有答案。他试图告诉我们,不同的人,对于不同的好的渴望是完全主观的,是完全平等的,是没有高低之分的。