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目标片段这种思想的人，对于跟自己意见相左的人的进行的暴政。我们且不在这个方面去反对这个思想。我反对的主要原因就是因为我认为这是一种知识上的闭塞，我们必须要去理解不同意我们的人。他最有利的观点是什么。所以说接下来播客的后半段，我们来看一看，为什么美国保守派，他也把手指指向美国左派，说美国左派的主流思想才是厌女的。我刚才使用了美国总统来举例，为什么左派认为右派是厌女者，那我们现在也用美国权力的另外一个顶峰，
来源片段Because I think a lot of people would object to that. They would say, no, we are the left, and the right way to be on the left is precisely to counter white supremacism and those forms of white identity politics with a range of different forms of identity politics that can stand up to that, and that is what the left today is and should be. What do you mean by saying that's not the left? Do you mean that that's not being truly left wing, or do you mean that it doesn't dominate the left? What's the implication of that? People can call themselves whatever they want, but the traditional left was concerned with
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concerned with women's rights, minority rights and so on, but that particular issue of identity politics is basically dissociated from the left. The obvious reason is to look at the major forms of identity politics and the major forms, again, overwhelmingly are white supremacy and male supremacy. That's real powerful identity politics. We don't notice it because we just take it for granted, but that's not an argument. In fact, it shows a deep problem.
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保护堕胎权是保护种族正义和经济正义的一个紧迫问题。这是一个美国最主流、最有权力的进步活动机构。他在讨论堕胎权的时候，为什么忘记了跟堕胎权息息相关？甚至我们可以说是唯一相关的人群。这个人群就是女性。美国右派说，美国左派对于包容性的提倡已经走火入魔了，这不是真正的包容性。这种包容性是建立在牺牲弱势群体的权益之上的女性，就是这些被牺牲的弱势群体之一。我刚才觉得这两个例子绝对不是美国左派的极端，他们一个是美国权力最大的公民进步民间组织。
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I worry that there is a more fundamental disagreement about the kind of society that we want to live in that it speaks to. Undoubtedly, there is a faction of white supremacy. There's a faction of people who don't want slavery taught. There's a faction of people who don't want to admit the historical injustices that the United States has perpetrated. But I think there's two other factions. And one of those wants to talk about slavery, wants to talk about the historical injustices of the United States, but also wants to emphasize that the kind of society that we should seek
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哇，说到这里，我已经说累了，我觉得我这期播客非常牛，这期播客的内容，我惹恼了战斗力、政治战斗力最强的所有群体播客一开始得罪了中文语境中的女权主义分子播客的中间嘲讽了川粉播客的最后惹恼了进步人士，最终我要得出一个什么结论呢？我认为这两派的理论都有一点道理，对吧？我们没有必要在评论区里面争论。我是不是在举哪一派中的极端理子？我觉得我已经尽可能试图的证明，这两派的论点确实是美国主流社会都在发生的情况，而且他也不能够用中文语境中流行的那些个什么女权主义的专业名词来描绘，最终它是一个政治问题，它不是一个理论性的问题，它是一个政治力量的博弈。