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目标片段前者认为，中国人能够比西方人更自由的阅读西方经典。后者认为中国人根本不可能自由的阅读。西方经典。一个标题说，中国将继承河马另外一个标题说，诺兰成了中国政府的人质。在一个作者眼中同一段采访代表西方古典文明可能在中国获得新生。在另外一个作者眼中，代表西方文明，已经向中国政府宣传投降了OK.首先我想说明一点，这两篇文章表面上是在讨论我实际上根本就不关心我是谁，对吧？他们需要的分别是两种中国观察者，需要一个能够在文化运动之后重新寻找传统，因而可能拯救河马的中国。
来源片段that that kind of very divisive class language couldn't be allowed ever again to create a new Cultural Revolution. And the idea of creating a more common sense of national identity, along with what we were mentioning, this kind of consumerist push, and of course, the authoritarian, you know, top-down control, all of these are supposed to come together. That for me is why what I talked about in a recent book called China's Good War, I think to me is interesting, because one of the phenomena that I notice when I go to China frequently, but it's very rarely seems to me commented on the West, is that they're obsessed with the Second World War.
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or is this primarily greater care and concern among the elite level? So I think that's a really important question as it gets to something quite subtle that I think is going on in China. On the one hand, the direct answer to your question is that I think people who don't know you very well would now be more careful about saying anything very critical, particularly of high levels of government and anything about top leadership than they might have been even a few years ago. But actually, and this is the bit that perhaps is surprising and brings us back to these different factors, for an awful lot of people, it's something they acknowledge in private and say, you know, it's really anything from annoying to angering,
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我们那你在私人空间，你在卧室里也可以思考最无聊和最深刻的话题。但是对于公共语境能否承载严肃讨论这个事情，提出思考的人。他其实真正质疑的是，我前几天经历的这个情况，就是无数个不同的立场，不同的人，不同的想法的多元的人带着自己的视角对某个特定的事件进行思考和讨论。这个思考和讨论的过程，是否是一个庸俗化的过程。还有另外一个问题。公共空间的庸俗应该归咎于群众还是精英。
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that doesn't have much nuance in it. But the reality, and of course, if you go for instance to Chinese academics who work on history, who obviously most academics are not listened to by anyone other than a few students, so that's why we're safe, you see, I should know if nobody cares that much about what we think. They will acknowledge, I think, that there is a much more complex and frankly, much more interesting story to tell. I sometimes say, I'll say it now, that China is a plural noun, because actually it's the combination of a whole variety of different sorts of traditions and ways of doing things. You know, there is a China that is highly authoritarian.
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我相信如果你是一个有文化，对我保有最基础的尊重和善意的人。在这里你会跟我说上面的这些左翼和右翼的阴谋论都是讲理讲出来的，你不要去理他们就好了。但事实就是从一个具体的个人承受的经验来看，当你真正进入公共空间之后，不断的持续的跑来出现在你面前骚扰你的就是这些声音，因为他们的数量太庞大了，能够了解一件事情是怎么发生的，能够承认世界上存在复杂因果的人是少数人，完全没有思考能力的人是多数人能够在30秒内被阴谋论说服的人数量是要来的更多的。