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目标片段如果他们在大学里没有学会读书和思考。通常这些学生会以同样的价值观和心态。同样的姿态离开大学,以同样的功利主义的态度,也就是说衡量有用的态度去看待他们这漫长的这辈子要从事的所有事情,大学的目的不是帮助他们在这场社会地位游戏中获得成功。如果如果是这样的话,如果我们把比如说前10%的人定义成世俗定义中的成功。如果大学仅仅是为了帮助学生在社会地位游戏中获得成功的话,那我们可以说大学教育必然对于参加大学教育的90%的学生来说是失败的,
来源片段another school doesn't seem to matter that much. You know, these mechanisms, these incentives to improve the quality of schools, which is ultimately what things like no left behind were meant to do, may not work very well. But look, if there's some countries in which most students do pretty well, like you look at the 10th percentile of student outcomes and they're pretty competent and therefore they're set up for meaningful lives where they may not end up being CEOs, but they'll be able to participate in an economy in a meaningful way. And then you have another country like the United States where the 10th percentile

相似度 0.753 · The Good Fight · Why Education Fails to Advance Equality · 目标 11:59–12:30 · 来源 18:58–19:31

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    1. S1来源 8:59–9:30目标 5:58–6:310.706

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      that's fine. But let's do what we can in order to make sure that students actually get a real education where we have a higher percentage of a country that is set up for success in life. Right. So presumably the vision behind the bill seems very attractive. But what you're saying is wrong with it is that actually the problems that explain why in some schools such a high percentage of students doesn't graduate or graduates but doesn't actually know how to read and write very well. Those are not the kinds of problems that a school principal could solve.

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      但是它唯独不告诉你的是一本书背后最重要的那个问题。那就是这本书为什么?好,这本书为什么它是美的?当一个学生在一整个教育过程中,从来没有尝试过回答这个问题的时候,那么他们自然不会认为阅读是一件好事,阅读的目的不存在于阅读之外。阅读之所以是一件好事,不是因为它能够帮你拿到更好的成绩,不是因为它能够帮你在社会中更加成功。不是因为它能够帮你赚更多的钱,不是因为它能够帮你踩在全班其他同学的头上。

    2. S1来源 13:28–14:04目标 10:43–11:160.704

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      unjust that particularly black and Hispanic students are underrepresented in them. And so there's a huge push to abolish those selective entrance exams and so on. And I guess there's an assumption on each side, but there's an assumption on the side of a left wing reformist that abolishing these entrance exams and getting more students access to those schools is going to really help social justice because it will be set them up for greater success in life. And there's an assumption on those who resist those changes, particularly some of those parents of Asian Americans, many of whom are quite poor themselves, first generation immigrants, who think this is our kids ticket

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      现在很多环保主义、反人类中心主义伦理问题的起点其实已经提前接受了功利主义。对于人的降格。所以话说回读书就是那个普林斯顿的老师,他跟我描绘他在大学里教书的感受。我相信会让很多中国人产生共鸣。现在的美国孩子和中国孩子一样,能够进入到这些大学的人,是从幼儿园开始就被训练成要进入这些大学的人。只有这样,你才能够进入这些大学,你需要选择所有正确的选项,做出所有正确的人生决定,需要参加所有的课外活动,需要拿到所有正确的成绩,你才能够进入这些大学。

    3. S1来源 32:43–33:18目标 12:43–13:190.688

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      colleges, that's virtually invariably going to be the question. And certainly it will color how you then see them, depending on how impressive the answer is or whatever. Right. But changing that culture seems like nearly as hard and undertaking as making sure that every student succeeds. Right. So what concretely would it mean to get over the cult of smart and create a society where we value people more equally? Culture follows material conditions. Right. The culture and social aspects of what I complain about in the book are themselves in large measure aspects of economic realities that are happening.

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      如果大学教育有任何意义,它的意义在于通过阅读,通过读书,可以帮助学生摆脱这种有读的把一切事情视为有用的价值观用是否有用来评判一切价值,乃至于评判所有人的人生态度。因为这种人生态度必然带着人走向无止境的攀比,以及最终绝望的虚无。大学教育的目的,不是让你成为人上人,而是让你成为人,成为一个有自己人格的人,并不是一件简单的事情。如果教育的目的就是为了让接受教育的人成为人上人的话,那确实教育不比辍学,赚钱不比出生在豪门权贵之家,不比买彩票,不比坑闷拐骗,但是不被人抓到这些事情要来的更加有尊严、有意义,有价值教育跟大家脑子里能够想到所有这些能够让你获得成功,

    4. S1来源 34:59–35:31目标 13:14–13:460.680

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      pressure on a particular number, people will achieve that number through any means necessary. So the pressure on getting people out the door and getting graduated has been so intense that the graduation rate has gone up and up and up, despite not being really being a good educational reason for it to have done so. So that's in fact, kind of what I want to see happen. And what's the benefit from that? Because presumably a high school degree is valuable as a signal in a market, right? It means that if I'm hiring a shop assistant, you know, I know that this

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      如果教育的目的就是为了让接受教育的人成为人上人的话,那确实教育不比辍学,赚钱不比出生在豪门权贵之家,不比买彩票,不比坑闷拐骗,但是不被人抓到这些事情要来的更加有尊严、有意义,有价值教育跟大家脑子里能够想到所有这些能够让你获得成功,让你成为人上人的其他事情的区别在于,教育是唯一一种能够让你不管成功与否,不管你是否满足别人对你的期待与否。

    5. S1来源 36:27–37:00目标 23:30–24:030.654

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      it still is better to be a high school graduate than to be someone who drops out of high school. But there's so much noise in that because people who drop out of high school tend to have so many bad things going on in their lives that they swamp whatever the data would be. I think that it's not clear to me that the kind of jobs that someone who's going to get right out of high school actually require, for example, algebra. So I quote the books of the mass mess by Andrew Hacker, who's an economist. And one of the things that he demonstrates in his book is just that

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      三天前在纽约时报上一个加州大学欧文分校的哲学教授Anastasia Burke刊登了一篇文章,叫做哪怕是最基础的。人工智能的使用,对学生也是有害的。这个教授在里面基本上也说了差不多的事情。这不是一个个例,这就是一个普遍现象。他说,他去年在大学开了一门课,后来发现在期末考试中有一半以上的学生使用了人工智能来代写考试答案。讽刺的是这门课的课名叫做道德问题,人类生命的价值。我知道我们能够听到的绝大多数来自人文学者对于人工智能的批评是说,他会破坏学生的注意力,

    6. S1来源 38:14–38:46目标 27:58–28:300.660

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      I don't know about the topic, but it may be a great way of actually early on predicting is somebody capable of being a doctor. And if a lot of pre-med students are going to be forced to take that class, it might save them a lot of pain, two years down the line when they would recognize it anyway, or perhaps even help us weed out some people who shouldn't be doctors because they'd be killing patients inadvertently. Right. But what you're saying is actually, you know, making algebra a weed out class for a high school degree, it's not the right signal because it doesn't actually predict where we're going to be able to be a good shop assistant, for example. Exactly. That seems convincing to me.

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      对于学生来说也是有害的。因为确实现在会有很多人在区分什么非法的人工智能使用和合法的人工智能使用。绝大多数的大学现在仍然会说,你完全让人工智能给你写出一整篇论文,它是一个非法的事情,我会惩罚你,这就是作弊,这就是抄袭。但是有越来越多的大学,现在在默认你用人工智能给你做提纲,给你摘要,帮助你去理解总结一篇论文,这都是看似无害的功能。其实老师也禁止不了,对吧?

    7. S1来源 47:13–47:45目标 36:13–36:460.662

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      I am the truly righteous person who's willing to, you know, bravely stare all to the injustice in the face. And I'm not saying that everybody's motivated purely or primarily by that. You know, obviously a lot of people really do want political change and so on. But it does help to explain to me why things that don't actually seem to on any plausible account of the world further the goals that these activists have. Why those positions are so popular? It's because actually what's driving it in a complicated media and social media environment isn't always what furthest the goals.

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      现在越来越多的学生无法阅读,无法思考,无法理解现实,也有越来越越多的人听着这些播客可能会觉得我在纯粹要求你做一件没用的事情,为什么要去阅读,为什么要去思考,为什么要去理解现实?未来反正没有什么可以值得期待的。我想说的是,这个态度恰恰是绝大多数人类历史中绝大多数社会里绝大多数人的心态,这就是一个事实。而我们现在正在逐渐退回这个事实。在播客的最后,我想用另外一个事实结尾,那就是所有人类社会几乎都能够达成的。