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目标片段我对于其他地区的描绘，只是一种揣测和观察。就是刚才博克指出我们说什么？第二天性一个人的人性是被他所在的时间、历史和地理位置决定的。博克说的是一个英国人，没有办法剥离他所生活的英国习俗。我不知道当时的英国习俗是什么。但是在做饭的时候，我经常感到只有一个对于家乡菜，或者说是他出生地没有什么了解，没有什么真正感情，没有什么深刻依恋的人，他才会觉得哇哦这个预制菜也可以代替我的家乡菜。
来源片段But, Penn, you think that's because of the war, because of rationing, because the habit of cooking gets broken? Or what happens? Oh, I mean, I think, no, I think when I say post-war, I think we have a very sort of particular post-war diet, which, but I think actually, no, it goes back longer than that. I think if you go right back to kind of where it all went wrong, it is in a way, it was probably when, because we seem to be going the right way in the kind of long 18th century. That's when the English palette is laid down. When you have female housekeepers who were producing, you know, locally, locally grown, good food, lots of vegetables, lots of meat, always lots of meat.
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You know, these descriptions, sounds absolutely ghastly. And that's kind of how I remember it, actually, 70s, 80s. But, Penn, you think that's because of the war, because of rationing, because the habit of cooking gets broken? Or what happens? Oh, I mean, I think, no, I think when I say post-war, I think we have a very sort of particular post-war diet, which, but I think actually, no, it goes back longer than that. I think if you go right back to kind of where it all went wrong, it is in a way, it was probably when, because we seem to be going the right way in the kind of long 18th century.
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作为一个每天做饭的人，我觉得很多时候在我心中理所当然的就是应该遵守的规矩，在不会做饭的朋友眼中其实就是各种各样的偏见OK所以铺垫了这么多。我想说的是，我不知道你有没有发现这种对于做饭的态度，其实和预制菜背后代表的做饭的态度是两种完全不同的逻辑。你可以说这种差别有点像博客的保守主义和理性主义的差距。因为预制菜它其实就是一种工业化的理性主义，对吧？我不是站在好不好吃，方便不方便，卫生不卫生这个角度来看待预制菜。
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No, I think it's the fault of British focus, us trying to kind of imitate French food in a way that just probably didn't suit quite sort of modest English kitchens. So if we could dial it sort of back in time, is there a point at which you can say there is a British cuisine?
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英国人对于花园文化的痴迷等等等等，这是一套理性之外的空间做饭？就是为什么我们把这个事情说到做饭，为什么一道预制菜的小鸡炖蘑菇，它代替不了真正的小鸡炖蘑菇里面那个争菇散发的香气算了，